Let's talk about whiteness

How to create change.

This podcast is about whiteness, power structures and how anyone who wants to, can be part of a change. Through conversations between Lovisa Fhager Havdelin and Barakat Ghebrehawariat, we learn about wanting to do something right but still getting it wrong, how to be a true white ally and difficult terminology.

Lovisa Fhager Havdelin is secretary general at The Order of the Teaspoon. It is a Swedish foundation engaged in an active dialogue with children and young people to promote diversity.

Barakat Ghebrehawariat is an entrepreneur with focus on democracy and communication. He holds lectures, is an advisor and educator on these topics. He is also known as The Democracy Agent.

Listen to the podcast here.